I Really Do Wish you All a good afternoon, evening or morning. :artist::biggrin::smile: And, not to put a bummer on the new year, at all, but.... God, being all knowing, as he's supposed, or is touted, to be...certainly would not have put a poisoned fruit, evil fruit or misanthropic food source in his Garden of Eden. Enticement is a form of validation, may I add. Can PEACE bring about a change in how people behave? :dizzy: Secondly, since the Biblical/Torah God had a sneaky fruit in it, and why would God do such a thing to mere mortals is second question/complaint, then why worship such behavior (third questioning tenet). I'm really shocked. Can PEACE bring about the change needed? :sad::dizzy::bowl::artist: And, since the above clearly are factual statements questioning odd belief systems and misapplied belief systems, just who is this God these 'religious' ferverts (rhymes with...) think of, demand we all go about worshipping, and/or have been followed so ignorantly without question, reason, love for life, and so on? I'm mortified. And, again, can PEACE bring about the realization of how foolish religions are/have been behaving? :bowl: Lastly, after bannishment (instead of counseling) from 'Eden' why oh why are so many followers of this 'faith' insisting they are sane, intelligent and the like? How is going along with all the madness with such lack of staunch protection of our planet's animals, nature and human lives sane, intelligent or Godly? I stand grossed-out! And, again... can PEACE....????? :dizzy: Really, now. At these heights, life is appearing to be a big big sham, a scam put on by the wicked and a sham put on by the gullible, the followers of come what may, and the foolishly overly trusting.:artist: Oh, well. It seems each time I go debunking things I find even more ammo. Seems to me that just living is all we should be doing. It's just not enough to say you'll stop the hate, lies, Gods of pain, etc. i.e., stop all of the sickness. It's not enough to complain and yet still go to work for a cruel boss, corporation or government. :sad: And, if the world truly can be saved, where are the signs, the protests against false religious believes. Where are the hordes complaining about the Iraq war in Government. Where are the voting platforms of our major parties...? when they are silent on the very basic issues of false beliefs, false food systems, false religions and phony governments.:dizzy::shocked: Best wishes for a really sane world you all. I have my doubts we'll be seeing anything really tangible for a few thousand years, and just think of all the pain, crippling, blindness, bigotry, hatred, horrors and mind boggling stupidity that will have continued on, just because we're too weak to really effect REAL change.:sad::dizzy: Bye now. Eric, the ancient one.